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wow. >> amazing show ahead, as well. this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. here is the $10 billion candidate speaking to a cheering crowd at the american airlines center in dallas. >> you are going to be -- if i'm elected president -- so proud of your country again. you're going to remember this evening and you're going to say to your children and you're going to say to anybody else that we were part of a movement to take back our country. and we will make america great
again. >> trump's next big event? our cnn gop today in just two days. and guess who is going to be watching? hillary clinton. >> they're pretty much the same. they're trumped, just without the pizzaz and the hair. >> but with bernie sanders and joe biden right in her rearview mirror, how can clinton stop her slide in the poll? well, donald trump speaking for well over an hour tonight and his fans in texas loving every minute of it. here are some of the highlights. >> so the polls come out and we're really killing it. we are killing it. they mentioned a little while ago, scotty, about the silent majority. it's back. and it's not silent. i think we should call it -- maybe we should call it the noisy, the aggressive, the
wanting to win, wanting to win majority. we're going to have so many victories that at some point, they're just going to be coming out of your ears. though i have to be careful what i say about coming out of somebody's -- i have to be careful. nose, ears, eyes, those are the only places i'm talking about. the only. i make, like, statements because, you know, carly is giving me a hard time even though her phone numbers are horrible. she was the one. she's another one. she's surging. everybody is surging but me. hillary is not surging, i'll tell you that. they're not saying that. they're not saying that. thank you. hillary is not surgeon iing.
look, i like carly and i like ben and i like many of the people that i'm running against. i mean, many of these people are terrific people. but nobody is going to be able to do the job that i'm going to do. nobody. they won't. they won't. and i made a speech in washington the other day for the tea party. and your senator, too, by the way, senator cruz who happens to be a good guy. good guy. now if he comes out and attacks me on wednesday night, i will take it back immediately, okay? >> so many to unpack here. so let's talk about trump and our upcoming debate. cnn political analyst joins me, maria cardona, kevin madden who has worked with might tell romney's campaign among others, he's standing outside the reagan library, home of cnn's debate in
just two days, cnn commentator ben ferguson is here, as well. ben, i'm going to start with you. it was a rock star rally in your hometown of dallas. he had the crowd. you were there. give us a grade. how did trump do? >> look, they loved him and he was able to pack this place like it was a basketball game. as one person said to me, they go this feels like the playoffs but it's more fun because it's about america. and i think that's why people are really coming to these rallies. it is incredible to see that he can talk for that long, hold people's attention, say what he says because the one thing is, if you notice when i was here, they're all wondering what is he going to say next? it's not predictable at all. and i think that can sum up his entire campaign. i think that's why people are so fascinated with him. i think that's why they show up by the thousands and tens of thousands today. if you're they're working on donald trump's a campaign,
there's no other campaign that is so fun. he puts it out on twitter and people show up. that's why he's lead, above 30% in the polls. >> the tickets were free, but demand was so high that tickets were being scalped for a political event. he called those supporters the noisy aggressive wanting to win majority. you heard him in the sound bite. is it safe to say that you're in the minority in the party right now? >> pretty much. i mean, look, i wouldn't say the minority because i think there's about 60% of the electat that hasn't made up their mind and there's about another 70% that are supporting other candidates. but look, i watched those scenes tonight. it had shades of obama in 2008 when you look at the crowds and the enthusiasm and the energy that was in that room. donald a trump has really -- he's capturing this energy of so many of his supporters right now. in many ways, when he talks about his poll numbers and how they're winning and they're
going to make america great again, it's a little bit of a self-fulfilling prophesy. his supporters start to feel great about supporting donald trump. so i mean, that's why when you look at the last cnn poll that said who do you think is going to win the nomination and 51% said trump, right now, a lot of republican voters when it comes to donald trump, they don't see an end in sitght. a lot of that has to do with the candidates aren't matching the excitement that donald trump is. somebody has to step up if they think they're going to take if party in a different direction. >> the last time we saw big rallies like this. bernie santders is pulling a time of folks. do you remember when president obama was candidate obama, having huge rallies in 2008 for the 2008 election. what is donald trump tapping into? for president obama, it was hope and change. what about him? >> well, i think first it's that he is not a cookie cutter candidate. i think there's a certain sliver of the republican electorate right now that wants somebody who is a fighter, wants somebody
who is confrontational. more than anything, they're tired of the polished blow-dried politicians that we've nominated in the past. donald trump being a dramatic departure from that. >> gloria, i want to play another sound bite for you and then we'll chat. here it is. >> it's ben carson. he's a nice man. i think he's in second place. at 11% or 12%. now, i'm at 40% and it's actually 41%, but they don't want to say that. they don't want to give me the little benefit of a couple of -- you know, if it's 40.9, they'll say i'm at 40. do you understand that? so ben carson, good guy. i think he's 11 or 12 and they're saying carson -- here is the headline. carson surging. what about me? where is my name? i'm at 40. where is my name?
it's unbelievable. do you know where my name is? they don't know where my name is, either. by the way, can you see in the back inspect they have the best view. can you see it's really my hair? >> you don't know what he's going to say. it's part rambling. how do the other candidates top that? >> well, they don't. he's trump. what about me? what other candidate are you going to hearsay, what about me or i gave up the apprentice to run for president, right? that was also a part of the speech. you can't top donald trump. i mean, what they're trying to do and not having a lot of success at it, quite frankly, is they're trying to attack him from the right saying he's not a real republican, he's not conservativ conservative. and i think those are all valid points if you're a conservative republican. but the thing about donald trump
is that he's not an ideology, he's not a plan, he's a big idea. and the big idea of donald trump is that i'm not like any of you, i'm an outsider and, by the way, nothing succeeds like success. and i've had success and that's going to rub off on you and the rest of the country. so for the other candidates, it's like punching jello. they just don't know how to do it. it's really hard. >> yeah. and you're -- go ahead, ben, quickly. i need to get maria in. go ahead. >> when you watched this tonight, when i was sitting here, it's this us against the world was where he got his biggest applause. it's everyone is against us, no one is covering us fairley. he got everyone to boo at the media in the crowd. >> that's not hard. >> yeah, exactly. >> and, ben, and he -- >> the underdog. >> and he ended the campaign rally with the song -- with -- >> go ahead, kevin.
>> he ended up the campaign with the song by twisted sister "we're not going to take it" and the place is auto their feet. that's the summary of this campaign sentiment. >> and here i think is where the other candidates could take advantage, not in terms of going at him, you know, mono a mono. you can't outtrump trump. but look at where the setting is of where this debate is going to take place. it's at the reagan library. reagan focused on optimism. he focused on lifting people up. there's a great quote that he talked about, the shining city on a hill. this city had a door and the door was going to welcome anyone with the heart and the will to get there. that is so different than the rhetoric that donald trump and, frankly, a lot of the republicans are using. but if other candidates can focus on their policy description, giving voters something optimistic as opposed to playing to the lowest common denominator of angst and fear
and pessimism, then i think they can start differentiating themselves from donald trump and the rest of the pack. >> plenty more to talk about when we come back. stand by, gloria. i'll get you on the other side of the break. terrorism's a faebs loving what he said to say. outside the arena, it was a different story. what the protesters want from donald trump. plus, hillary clinton's latest polls rattling democrats. can she turn this thing around? at&t and directv are now one.
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the countdown is on to krrchb's debate wednesday night. donald trump fires you up thousands of supporters tonight. i want you to listen to what he says about the big issue, and that's immigration. >> it's a massive problem. we have to stop illegal immigration. we have to do it. we have to do it. have to do it. and i don't mean to be disrespectful, but when a man has a problem and he's got his wife or his girlfriend and they
move her over to the border for one day, has the baby on the other side of the border, our side, now that baby is a citizen of our country for however long the baby lives. howeverly a long -- it's wrong. it's wrong. and by the way, by the way, the law doesn't call that. that's not what the law says. and people are finding out now that i'm right. we didn't say that somebody could be pregnant for nine months, come across the border, have a baby and now it's ours and we have to take care of the baby forever. it doesn't say that. it does not say it. >> chloe is back with me, maria, kevin madden and ben ferguson. the point donald trump always makes when he is questioned about his lack of policy specifics, is that if it wasn't for him, that we wouldn't be talking about an issue, it wouldn't be an issue in this campaign.
maria. >> that's just not true, though, don. we've receive how the immigration has been a huge issue in the past several presidential campaigns and, in fact, it has been a hiej problem for the gop in 2008 and in 2012. like donald trump, they went way to the right. they went way to the extreme. just talked to john mccain who did a 180 on the legislation that has his own name on it. mitt romney talked about deportation. >> let me ask you this, any of you, did you -- you heard the speech tonight, right? did you hear the cheers and he applause he got when he mentioned immigration and building a wall and people cheering usa, usa, and screaming. i have never heard anyone in the republican rally around the immigration issue like that. did you? >> but those are the same shouts that happened in the gop today in 2012. mitt romney went so far to the right where he couldn't go back in the crm tired of pooem being. i'm tired of being p.c.
i'm tired of us apologizing for being great. with his wallet, he's willing to double and triple down on it because he thinks that's what america wants to hear and it filled up a pretty big arena tonight. >> kevin, there were people outside, though, with a rally saying dump trump. so there were a lot of people outside who were upset by this. >> yeah. small. >> yeah. and i think they were probably outnumbered by about 12,000 to 1. >> but do you worry when a poll says 70% of latinos find trump offensive? do you worry about that? >> i absolutely do. ben is absolutely right. ideas when you define yourself by what you're against and not enough about what you're for, it becomes a problem with expanding that party's appeal. a republican candidate for a president in 2016 will not win the white house without at least 40% of the hispanic/latino vote. >> right. yep. >> so unless we go out there and start winning and start persuading these voters to look differently at our party, we're not going to win the white
house. i think the other candidates now have a challenge before them which is how do they talk about an issue of enforcement, which is absolutely important. we don't want illegal immigration but in a way that's welcoming so we can grow our economy and be a great aspirational nation. that's the big challenge for the other candidates. >> you know, kevin, you know this better than i do because you votes. >> gloria, can you turn all of those people who were there in the crowd, can you turn those into caucus voters? >> well, you know, that's the big question. >> texas is a big state. >> great question. great question. >> this is the key question here, don. and you're hitting on it, which is all the people say who were in dallas, those were people who came out to see donald trump. he's a celebrity. they're interested in his ideas, they're interested in hill. the question is, who is going to participate in the caucuses? who is going to participate in the primaries? and right now, we don't do a really good job of polling likely voters because, quite frankly, it's expensive to poll likely voters at this point.
the closer you get to the election, you'll do it. >> go ahead. >> well, to gloria's point, there is two things here. one, you had a lot of people here tonight that had never gone to a political function in their entire lives who feel inspired by donald trump. i think what -- i talked to someone that is very close to trump's campaign. they said we're not worried about all these how many people don't like us because we're finding enough in you new people that not just like us, that love us, that we think can make up these numbers. i don't think the campaign is concerned at all about 730% negative with sxanices, because i think they think they found enough people to trump that number, no pun intended. >> well, i don't -- >> looking at that or looking at the reality of what is facing the republican party. >> we'll continue. kevin, you wanted to jump in? >> no. i just wanted to say, look, in order to get people to a gym mays yumm in a cold iowa night, you have to have enthusiasm. they had that part. it will be interesting to see if they can keep them there.
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let than 48 hours to go until cnn hosts a prtal debate and the anticipation is growing. shawn, i'm going to say this. i don't know if you're like -- are you fired up, ready to go? >> i'm fired up, ready to go. >> that was an obama thing in 2008. >> hey, you know what? and it worked. if that's what it takes, i'm on board. i'm excited. i hope we get a huge number tomorrow night. or wednesday night, rather. i think this is going to be a phenomenal debate. the shots that i see of the reagan library look unbelievable. i think the excitement and enthusiasm around the country is going to be great. >> but, you know, the tone, quite honestly, shawn, of this race has been pretty intense since labor day. candidates ramping up their attacks on each other. do you expect to see that come
across on the stage on wednesday? >> i really hope in the shadow of air force one and in the reagan library, that people choose to invoke reagan's 11th commandment, that they talk about what they want to do and where they want to go or hopefully focus their jabs at hillary clinton and not at each other. i get that primaries are tough. that's where you distinguish yourself from one another. that's part of the process. but the more we can stay focused on the democrats, the more we can focus on the candidates telling their story and their vision, i think that's much better for the party. >> okay. there are going to be a lot of people up on that stage. it's a really crowded field. 11 candidates. do you think that there are too many candidates? >> oh, god, no. absolutely not. i think when you look at these people, right? and you talk about the level of qualifications and accomplishment that each one of them brings in a hooung way, those who have been in washington, those who have been outside of washington, that's
awesome. when you look at the number of the first debate, we hit 30 million people. i was walking around, i talked to people that were in london that said i actually got up early to watch that debate. i talked to people that were in sports bars that said we asked everyone if they could turn the channel from espn to fox for that night. i hope that we have the same reaction. >> i want to play this real quick. much more to get to, but i want to play this. this is hillary clinton talking about the debate and donald trump. >> i, you know, obviously watch it and watch how each of the republicans is out of touch and out of date and what they're saying and keep track of that because, clearly, their front-runner gets most of the attention, but there's not any real difference in where they would take the country on so many of the important issues. >> what's your reaction? >> i think it's kind of hysterical listening to hillary clinton lecture people about the direction they want to take the country and honesty. look at the polls that came out
today. she's getting crushed now, not only by both joe biden and bernie sanders who is now leading her in iowa and dead each with her in new hampshire, but her trust factor has plummeted like a rock. and the biggest group that she's losing with is women. it's phenomenal. she has lost, in the last month and a half, something like 30 points with women and that's the one group that she's targeting hard. the more people learn about hillary clinton, the less people like her. when she left the department of state, she had an approval rating in the mid 60s. it's now in the high 30s. the more she talks, the better for us. >> okay. let's move on now and talk about jeb bush. he has a new ad in which he speaks spanish. [ speaking spanish ]. so donald trump had said jeb
bush should speak english and not spanish when campaigning. some of the comments about spanish voters may have hurt that vote. are you worried about that long-term damage? >> well, obviously, as the primary goes -- we go through this primary, each candidate has to decide their own tactics, how they're going to reach tout to different groups. the one thing i'll say, whether it's donald trump or jeb bush, i think everyone in our party has to understand the spanish population is one we need to do better in. it's one that my boss and the chairman of the party has made tremendous efforts to reach out to put people in those communities to build bridges with the republican party. and it is clearly in a very, very important voting block as we head into the general election next year. >> sean, mark cuban e-mailed cnn today saying he would crush hillary clinton and donald trump. would you welcome him into the
race? >> i'm not going to upset mark cuban. i'm a big fan of "shark tank." i think i'm happy with the 16 that will be on the stage on wednesday night. >> thank you, sean. >> thank you, don. coming up, more bad news for hillary clinton. can she stop her slide in the polls? and can she hold off bernie sanders and joe biden? while you're on the move. sitcoms, while you sit on those. and even fargo, in fargo! binge, while you lose weight! and enjoy a good cliffhanger while you hang from a... why am i yelling? the revolution will not only be televised. the revolution will be mobilized. introducing the all in one plan. only from directv and at&t.
hillary clinton is still leading the democratic field nationally, but her challengers are gaining on her, deaf in thely not good news for the candidate. let's talked about it with david brock, founder of media matters for america and author of "killing the messenger." and republican stat grist mercedes slatt. mercedes, you first. hillary clinton, jeb bush suffering from the same problem, plunging favorbility ratings.
hillary is down to 42% from 62%. jeb is down to 8% from 21%. is there anything else anything they can do to turn these numbers around? >> well, you know, you have to take them separately, i think. for hillary clinton, obviously, the e-mail scandal, the fbi investigations, the sort of drip, drip, drip on her e-mails have really been -- have really hit her campaign very hard. and the fact that it took her so long to apologize and then she gave sort of this insincere apology. i think it really had a very negative impact on her campaign as we've seen n these poll numbers, especially among women that are having a hard time feeling that they can actually trust her. now, again, that can all change, as we know in this very insane campaign season. with jeb bush, it's a different story there. we have, obviously, the rise of, you know, the entertainer, donald trump coming in and sweeping through. and jeb bush has had a much harder time breaking through with his message and kind of
he's kept himself a little more -- >> but mercedes, he's trailing ben carson. >> again, why? because, don, we're dealing with such a different political animal right now. we're dealing with the fact that the gop voters are so upset at the washington establishment. at washington period. and they want -- >> but 8% of republican voters only have a favorable opinion of him, how can he win? >> oh, you know, i think jeb bush and the campaign, they're definitely -- you know, they're doing what they can to build their grassroots structure in place in all these different states. with that being said, they know this is for the long haul. they've got several months to try to make this play for these more moderate voters as well as for the conservatives. it's going to be a hard battle for jeb and jeb knew that from the beginning going into this race. >> i wonder, though, at this point if -- because everyone said it's going to be another clinton/bush matchup. but it might be be if you look
at the numbers from this point. to that point, david, the abc/washington news poll has hillary at 42%. sanders at 24%. joe biden at 21%. joe biden hasn't even said if he's going to enter the race. listen to what peggy noonan said on "face the nation" this weekend. >> to me, this is all start to go feel like 2008 again, the inevitable candidate starts to look evitable. and i think if biden got in, i must tell you, i think within two or three days, he would be up 20 points. i think he would be such a serious contender. >> i was watching this, i was in bed half sleep and i turned and look at the television like that and i was like, you know what? she has a point. would biden be a game changer? >> he might be and he would be a serious contender. but you have to take what some republican pundits are saying about this with a grain of salt. it has been part of the playbook all along, to create the
conditions through some of these fake scandals as i explain in my book. >> facebook scandals? >> for a serious primary challenge to emerge. but let's go ba to your question about what can be done. one, look, we know that august is cruel at the front runners and to eventual winners. and you look at howard dean or john kerry and mitt romney. this is the season for this, one. and two, more importantly, secretary clinton last week took responsibility for her part in this. she said she was sorry. people are seeing what these e-mails are, the more they come out, how benign they are. we're learning she likes skim milk in her tea and tells aides to pack warm socks. and three, and it's really underreported, but last week, the justice department made a legal filing about this and they said everything that was done here was proper and legal and including the fact that every government employee gets to make a decision about what is work related e-mail and personal e-mail --
>> you're not saying this e-mail thing is a good thing for her? >> oh, no, no, i'm saying we're going to take it off the table because the justice department said -- >> it's not off the table. >> hold on. can i just say something here? the deletion of the e-mail was appropriate. >> there's five months of -- >> off the table. >> david, did you hear today that there's five months -- >> secondly, once that's off the table, hillary clinton has been out there laying out concrete plans to move the country forward, but that's been blocked to a certain extent by the coverage of the e-mail. three, we're going to see a democratic debate and we're going to see hillary clinton testify on capitol hill and those are going to be game changers because people are going to see on that stage a contrast and they're going to see somebody they want to see as president. >> mercedes, go ahead. >> i think first of all, i do believe for the clinton campaign, the biden factor is important. because of the fact that there is a sort of authenticity that comes with biden. it's the likability factor. this is something that hillary clinton lacks. that is why she's in a process right now of reinventing herself
as a candidate and she's trying to connect with voters which she's had a very hard time doing. and so i think biden going into the race can definitely change things up. this is something that, again, i think democrats are looking for. that's why you're seeing many of these liberal democrats in these early states like iowa, new hampshire, saying i'm not trusting hillary clinton. i feel more xhscomfortable goin with a bernie sanders, who is a socialist. so i think it says a lot about where the democratic party is at this point. with that being said, hillary clinton remains very strong in these other states where she's built out her grassroots structures, where she has a lot of money. she'll be very difficult to beat, but the only one that's going to bet her is herself because of the mere fact that she has been involved with these investigations going on, where there has been classified e-mails -- >> no, there hasn't. >> and she has made a marriage mistake. >> there hasn't been classified e-mails. >> according to the government inspectors, they have. >> now -- >> we'll have to continue this
conversation. we're out of time, david. sorry about that. david's new book "killing the messenger" has a scolding love letter to democrats out now. make sure you pick it up. thanks to both of you. coming up, donald trump goes from reality star to political star and now arnold schwarzenegger is making the reverse trip. we'll tell you why, next.
so how about this? you can't make this up. the gop front-runner is a television reality star. his tv replacement is a former governor. is there election turning into one big reality tv show? let's talk about it. dillon byer, cnn's new reporter, welcome to the network. >> thank you for having me. >> brian stalter, host of re"liable sources" and buck sexton, skrn political commentator. good to have you all here. dillon, you first. nbz announced today that arnold schwarzenegger is going to fill the spot of next celebrity host of "the apprentice." he's a former governor of california and a huge movie star, as well. what in the world is going on
here? >> what's going on is the sort of blending of politics and entertainment that's been happening for a very long time. you could argue it's been happening since nixon debated jfk in 1960s. but now, it's coming to a head where the line between media politics almost doesn't exist any more and that explains donald trump's rise in the polls and it explains the way entertainers can go into politics and politicians can go into entertainment and that is so much more true now than it even was when reagan ran back in the 80s. and, you know, that just might be the new reality we're dealing with in politics and in entertainment. >> all right. i'm glad you see that because i'm going to ask buck to follow up on that. donald trump feels a long list of celebrities, some of who dylam mentioned. ronald reagan, jessie ventura. how do more serious candidates compete in this?
>> it's obviously hard where you have somebody with the national notoriety that donald trump has. honestly, i think you'll see some comparisons drawn not just from the possibility of being someone -- trump brings up that he's reagan like in some capacity. but now that schwarzenegger is taking his former job, was governor of california like reagan was. he wasn't a successful one, however. i think people have seen at times in the past where people were very well known celebrities. in fact, fell on their faces when you look at what they're able to do when they're in office. governor ventura, i don't think anybody is going to remember that too fondly. in that regard, reagan is kind of the exception. he's a very big one. that's why trump has been saying he's a candidate that resembles reagan in some respect. what we're seeing, it's hard to deal with the fact that trump is taking some of the media oxygen out of the room. it's not just the media is covering hill. he does better with the time that he has and, therefore, gets more coverage on top of that.
he's just interesting. i just watched his whole press conference, which is really a one-man show. >> it's like a stand up routine, right? because he doesn't use a teleprompter. but he talked tonight, since you mentioned that, about the costs for him entering the race. here it is. >> i lose a lot. not only -- i don't do the apprentice and get paid a fortune. it's also i lose opportunity, all these deals. i have a deal in china. i have deals all over the place that i could do. boo, boo, but it's true. it's like picking up a check. it's like picking up a check. but i give up a lot. politician runs, all talk and no action, what do they give up? they give up nothing. they run. you know what? they run, they lose, they win, they don't care. all they want to do is be re-elected or run again if they fail, right? with me, it's a whole big deal. it's a whole big deal.
and, you know, i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm not taking all of this blood money. not doing it. >> so, brian, how much has he really given up by running? >> two months ago, three months ago he enters the race. two months ago, thought it was in shambles, he's lost all these sponsors. now we look around and see that his brand has been bolsters, that he has more power than ever. i think what we can all recognize now is that his ten years on nbc was incredibly valuable practice in front of these cameras as an actor, as a star, and he's using those talents now in the presidential race that no other candidate quite has. but let's keep in mind, in 2007, 2008, the knock against then candidate barack obama was he was too much of a celebrity, that he had star power. that was the conservative critique from obama among others. we are seeing a very different version of that, but another example of a reality show
campaign. >> mark cuban said he would crush both hillary and trump. is there room for another billionaire businessman turned reality show turned politician in this race? >> i'm sure some think there is. there was fantasies about mark shuldz, the starbucks ceo. i talked to mark cuban today. he says he has no intentions of running. he believes any democrat besides clinton that gets into the race will win, whether that's him to michael bloomberg. but his intention is there is room -- >> cuban would beat hillary. that's not just because i am a "shark tank" fan. >> this is friday night. trump may made an appearance on "the tonight show" with jimmy fallon. >> okay. interview time. we know question, are you ready for the republican debate next week? >> you know, the truth is, i'm always ready. it's really going to be a big
debate, but i'm always ready. >> it's not big, it's huge! huge, huge, huge, huge, huge! >> the ratings were huge, but when does it have to turn into policy? >> well, that's a great question. i mean, i think the danger with something, a skit like that is at a certain point, trump is at -- you know, running the risk of jumping the shark. and, you know, we've said trump has jumped the shark at least a dozen times before and his poll numbers only go up. but at a certain point, what voters are now looking for is to see what trump's actual policy proposals are because they're get something sort of familiar with the routine. obviously, that's what he's going to have to bring out in wednesday night's debate. >> and we'll hear about it wednesday. as you said, just gave me a great tease. >> it's the man in the mirror mazes. >> i have to run, bryan.
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>> so learn more, go to cnnheros.com. that's it for us tonight. see you you back here tomorrow night. i'm don lemon, ac 360 right now. good evening. it's 11:00 p.m. in new york. donald trump speak to go a full house in dallas. the american airlines center in dallas, which is home to the nba mavericks. trump named mark cuban tonight in what's become his trademark off-the-cuff style of speaking. a big hour ahead for us including a conversation with his rival, dr. beb carson and a preview of wednesday's cnn debate in california. i'm joined by one of the people who will be asking the questions. but first, a sample from donald trump tonight.